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"Nothing has so enchanted mankind as the desire to believe the unbelievable,
to reach the unreachable, and to conquer what we can see with our eyes
but will never touch."
Steven Jury, 2008


Go for Lunar Landing conference report v1.13
 Dave Scott's Memo to Bill Gregory and Conference Report Comments
Dave Scott's memo to Bill Gregory and Dave's comments
(With Dave Scott's permission 07/07/08)

ALETRO - Aerospace Legacy Engineering and Technology Recovery Organization
ALETRO has formed as a corporation in the state of Arizona and has applied for 501(c)(3) status, which takes a few weeks. Keep track of the goings-on at ALETRO's home page.

In January 2008, we proposed oh so quietly to ourselves and now rather boistrously that we would offer everyone the opportunity to tell their story, their portion of a single moment in time--First Step. Where were you when Neil said those infamous words? Not everyone in the world can answer the question. July 20, 2009, will mark the beginning of the third generation since that fateful day. Send us your story. Tell us where you were. Describe the place where you were. Were you standing or sitting? Did you watch it on television? Did you listen to the radio reports? Whose voice did you hear? What did you feel? And by all means tell us what you were thinking. There are no right answers, just your answers. Short answers and long answers.

Email Lunar Landing your story. ( We'd love to hear it.

Include your name and contact information so we can verify that you are really you. Also include in your tale whether you want your name to appear with your story. We can simply state your first name and state if you'd like.

Sometime this fall in coordination with some structural redesign work in the offing, we will release a page where people can sit and read these stories. We'll continue the project for as long as people care to submit their tales, but we'd really like to get as many as we can prior to July 20, 2009. Neil and many other Apollo flight personnel monitor this site, and we're sure they'll get a kick out of this. Shoot, some might want to contribute their moments in time as well.

DESIGN CHANGES: July 23, 2008
We are in the process of reorganizing and restructuring the backend systems of Lunar Landing to better support a database- and object-driven site. Because of our all-volunteer nature, these changes will likely take three months, and even this is a guess.
ADDITIONS: July 23, 2008
The day 1, morning audio files 08 through 10 now have transcripts. These are linked on the audio/video page.
CORRECTIONS: May 15, 2008
A spelling mistke on the articles page (Powerpoint) has been corrected. Also, two name misspellings on the audio/video page have been fixed. Warrent as been changed to Warren. Meztger has been changed to Metzger.
UPDATES: April 23, 2008
The site policy has been updated. Use the link at the bottom of the page to review.
UPDATES: April 14, 2008
Great new video added to the audio/video page. We are working on an Apollo-specific section of the Lunar Landing site, which will contain just about everything you could ever want to know about Apollo. We're hoping for release in three to four months.
UPDATES: March 30, 2008
We are in the final testing of the release of Alpha 0.9 release 3 of the message board and document center. While there is much to do and add and probably fix, this is a big step for the Lunar Landing site.
UPDATES: March 24, 2008
Wayne Ottinger's 1971 oral history interview has been posted.

Day 2 of the "Go for Lunar Landing" conference audio has been uploaded as well. The recording began late in the morning, specifically during Lauri Hansen's Q&A session, so there is no file for the Wednesday keynote. We apologize for this. Also, the first hour of the audio that was captured is garbled, and while there are many segments in that first hour that are decent quality, there are a few where it might be difficult. If there were a way to remedy this, we would.

The executive panel's deliberations will be posted within a week.

Lunarlanding has nearly completed the installation of a private message board and secure document control center for use by conference attendees, academics, corporate interests, and NASA personnel. These functionalities will aid the technical deliberations and the development of collaborative efforts. Email for more information or access to the secure system(s).

UPDATES: March 18, 2008
We've added some images from the Lunar Landing Conference. If you have any you'd like posted, email.

Additions have also been made to the oral histories, technical reports, and some good additions to the resources page.

Don't miss the audio from the first day of the conference.

Go for Lunar Landing Conference . . . a great success!
Over 150 representatives of the Apollo team, academia, NASA, and the aerospace industry met in Tempe March 4 and 5 to discuss the Apollo lunar landings and to detail some of the issues that will face the Altair missions, slated to begin as early as 12 years from now.
Conference Documents
We're uploading the Go for Lunar Landing conference documentation. The presentation powerpoints will be found with the "articles". The audio from the conference will be filed in "audio/video."
Online Survey
In March 2008, we plan to offer a place for you to tell the stories of where you were during key moments in space history. Where were you when Neil stepped off the LM? Did you cheer when you heard, "the Eagle has landed"? What did you do when you heard the Challenger exploded? You can read other journal entries as well. And who knows? We might wind up releasing all the survey entries as a book (like "The Greatest Generation." It's a thought....
Technical Reports Preservation Effort
The University of Arizona is researching the possibilities of digitizing hundreds of technical documents and reports, select documents from the personal collections of NASA's program engineers, including LLRV/TV documentation. If you would like to help or to question, let us know.
NOTICE:  Known site bug--Earthrise
SAFARI USERS:  We are working on the jpg image of the earthrise we use at the bottom of our pages. We are aware that it might appear "blotchy" or "patchy" or just plain weird using the Safari browser. We apologize. We'll fix it, remove this notice, and say nothing. Admin (2008.03.17)

July 23, 2008

ADDITIONS:  Audio transcripts for Conference Day 1 Morning files 08 - 10.
July 7, 2008

ADDITION:  Dave Scott (Gemini 8, Apollo 9, Apollo 15) reviewed the conference report and scattered some impressive comments throughout his copy of the document, which we've linked in the left-hand column. Thanks to Dave for his permission to release this version.

If any other flight or technical personnel have significant commments, contributions, or historical artifacts they would like included in the Lunar Landing archives, let us know. (email link in policy page)
July 5, 2008

ALETRO UPDATE:  A new version of the ALETRO founding documentation can be found at
July 4, 2008

May 7, 2008

ADDITION:  Transcript 07
April 30, 2008

ADDITIONS:  Three more transcripts--02 through 04
April 27, 2008

ADDITIONS:  Four pdf documents from December and April conferences have been added to Lunar Landing's technical page. Most will find these docs interesting as they discuss current status of the Altair and lunar lander projects, including an April 8, 2008, update of the Altair project status by Lauri Hansen.
April 22, 2008

BEGINNINGS:  The transcriptions of the conference audio have begun with the release of the first transcription of Bill Gregory's welcome to the conference. We will add transcriptions as soon as we have them. You can find the transcriptions linked from the tail of the applicable audio files and from the articles page.

NOTE:  If you find an error or concern with a transcription, email the audio file name, transcription page number, and a detailed description of what you find wrong to us. EMAIL

April 14, 2008

ADDITION:  We've added Apollo video from Langley, rounding out the initial collection. They videos are short snippets. We will try to locate the full verions of these. For now, these will have to do. WEBMASTER COMMENT: The Apollo 16 crew was nuts.
April 1, 2008

CORRECTED:  The Archinal Powerpoint link now actually points to the correct file.
March 30, 2008

CORRECTED:  Many audio links from the conference were pointed to the wrong folder. This has been corrected. Email with any title that might still be pointed to the wrong folder.
March 30, 2008

CORRECTED: The spelling of Glenn Bever's name has been corrected in the audio as well as in the Web pages.

ADDED: Four new oral histories (pdf). None of the four are readily available, and Lunar Landing wishes to thank Stephen Dick of the NASA History Division and especially the Division's Chief Archivist and general wonder, Liz Suckow. Liz dug these up. The oral histories include two interviews with Gene Matranga and one with Cal Jarvis.

DOC CENTER: Uploaded to the Doc Center is the working version of the final report.

DOC CENTER: If you use the Doc Center, you might want to keep track of the known bugs, especially through our Alpha and Beta releases. The known bugs are included in the guidelines linked from the foot of the Doc Center.
March 24, 2008: Go for Lunar Landing Documents

CORRECTED: We corrected Michael Broxton's presentation (Panel 3).

ADDED: Wayne Ottingers 1971 oral history interview (pdf). Thanks to Elizabeth Suckow and Steven Dick of NASA's History Division for tracking it down.
March 12-15, 2008: Go for Lunar Landing Documents

We are missing one or two (or more) presentation documents as well as a couple other docs here or there. These will be uploaded as soon as we secure a digital copy and/or public release.
Go for Lunar Landing Audio/Video
Conference audio and video
Video from presentations uploaded March 12, 2008

Day 1 morning audio uploaded March 13, 2008

Day 1 afternoon audio uploaded March 15, 2008

Day 2 audio is slated for upload March 23-4, 2008 (give or take a day)
NASA's collection of images from Sam's pre-Mercury and Ham's Mercury flight
Send Ham images and links
"Flying is My Life"
Hanna Reitsch's autobiography (1954)
Hanna Reitsch
Hanna Reitsch Nazi-era test pilot video, includes 1930s helicopter exhibition and rocket flights, both successful
Lunar Landing Research Vehicle
We carry as many links and original objects as we can find for the LLRV and LLTV, partly because the man who owns the domain was the LLRV project engineer and the LLTV Technical Director for Bell. (images)  (video)  (monograph)
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